The Lucky 13 Villains We Would Like to See in Batman 3

Christopher Nolan has said he wants to use more of the more unknown Batman villians "because there are so many of them to choose from". Well, "many" is an extreme exaggeration.. "a few" is a bit more accurate. Mostly due to the majority of Batman villians being third rate charactors who are only interesting when they team-up with each other. The ones who can hold their own though are usually the ones that are a bit out there and would be next to impossible to present in any realistic fashion. Thankfully, Nolan's also said he will never use the Penguin in his movies (or Robin for that matter). So there's at least that. I just hope they don't go with the likes of Egghead, King Tut, Ma Parker, Calendar Man, Hush or that stupid Anarchy guy from the 90s. I'm pretty sure they're smarter than that, but who knows! At any rate we're just gonna cover the best and most probable villains that would fit into or could be made to fit into Nolan's realistic Gotham City.

#13 Muhammad Ali - if Superman can fight him why not Batman!

#12 Mr. Freeze - No. Too over the top and unrealistic. I would like to see a Chinese guy call him Meestah Fleeze though.

#11 Madhatter - He would only work well in a surreal Batman world. Hmmm, come to think of it, if Tim Burton had stuck around the 90s franchise and used him in it's third, that could've been pretty amazing. Maybe, anyway Madhatter is a prime example of lame Batman villians who are better off in a group than on their own and in any real world scenerio he'd be even lamer.

#10 Clayface - Eventhough in the comics he wasn't always the giant clay monster of the animated serieses, he'd still be a tricky one to pull off. If he was done as simple a master of disguise he would be managable, but how menacing is a master of disguise? He was never really a big player either.

#9 Firefly - He's really nothing special at all, but he's realistic and there's always (cameo) room for an arsonist and third-rate villian.

#8 Poison Ivy - There is so much potential with her, she's a great minor league villian. As long as her role was brief she would fit nicely. Unfortunately Nolan's Batman doesn't have enough friends to snap him out of her control though. Unless you count Alfred.. and that's just gross.

#7 Scarface - Hehe, He would be great since they are going heavy on the gangsters. Obviously though, the Ventriloquist would have to be the real villian but does anyone care if they made that compromise? Could be pretty sweet.. think Hopkins in Magic.

#6 Joker - I'm sick of hearing 16 yr old girls whine about not recasting the Joker to "honor Heath's memory". Yes, and they always refer to him by his first name because in their depraved loser-world they were imaginary friends with him. While Heath Ledger was a very good Joker, that doesn't mean that anybody else couldn't do it just as well, especially since the writers were just as responsibly for the current version of the Joker working. People die. Actors die. It happens and Hollywood moves on because why wouldn't it? Richard Harris was replaced in the Harry Potter movies after his death and nobody minded. Ledger's friends even say he would want someone else to play the part. Hell, they were even planning on recasting him in future sequels anyway. So what's the big deal? For this new franchise to have any sort of longevity they really will need to use the Joker once more.. granted, for a part three might be too soon.

#5 Catwoman - Arguable the closest thing Batman will ever get to any sort of "true love". Their history is a long and complex one (huh, i sounded pretty fuckin gay there), but I think Nolan could pull it off without a hitch, especially if she wasn't a center of attention and lasted more than one film. Unfortunatly, not enough time has past since Halle Berry's Catwoman to get the foul taste out of movie-goers mouths, so she might not be a welcome addition. Also, didn't Eartha Kitt teach them that America doesn't like Catwoman being black? Anyway, yea, now that I think about it she would probably do much better in a part four.. and if they went with the "Hush" look... and had her showing cleavage.

#4 Harley Quinn - Of course she probably would've fit better at the end of Begins, delivering the Joker's card to Gordon or some shit, since her presence pretty much screams "oh shit, is the Joker here too?". With Crane (Scarecrow) no longer running Arkum Asylum though, she'd make a decent replacement as head there. If you didn't know: She was the Joker's psychiatrist there and so obsessed with the completeness of his insanity, he eventually corrupted her and.. they didn't so much as fall in love, as just hooked up, Harley worshipped him and after she got him out he couldn't get rid of her. Her whole origin is pretty set, what with the Joker no doubt in Arkum now.. but even though she often upstages him, as his sidekick girfriend she can't really exist if they don't get their heads out of their asses and decide to bring back the Joker as was the plan before Ledger's Death. Although perhaps having her as the good/naive, pre-Harley Quinn, Dr. Harleen Quinzel would be good enough for now.

#3 Killer Croc - He'd make for a great lead-in or background villian. Instead of him being some mutant, having him as a normal, although huge, serial killer/cannibal guy who filed his teeth into points or some shit and lives in the sewer, could work. So much potential.. oooh Tommy 'Zeus' Lister could even play him, he's scarey as hell and since he was only credited as "tattooed prisoner" in this past one it's not impossible. Plus, he kicked Hulk Hogan's ass in No Holds Barred so he might be able to put a good hurtin on Batman!

#2 Talia - Ras al Ghul's daughter. She's lame. Very lame. but then, so is her dad and they made him reasonably cool in Begins. She would be an easy addition to the franchise, showing up in Gotham to try to recruit Batman, believing he's finally "come around" due to the recent rumors that he's been killing people. With Rachel dead now Batman also has room for another (doomed) love interest who knows he's Bruce Wayne. Of course she'd have to kill him when she found out he really wasn't killing anyone, but by then he'd have made her pussy too wet for her to off him so al Ghul's other, meaner daughter Nyssa could show up to finish them both off? Maybe have some lesbian incest sex too?

#1 Riddler - If portrayed as the pathetic, washed up villian he's become (due to his trademark compulsion to leave clues when he knows they always get him caught) ..as in Long Halloween, he could be great. Considering Nolan has said that that story was somewhat of a blueprint for these films, I hope Gary Oldman wasn't talking out his ass about him being in the third, the world needs to be purged of Jim Carey's abominbale rendition.

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